{"id":31215,"date":"2012-09-13T07:10:38","date_gmt":"2012-09-12T23:10:38","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/techielobang.com\/blog\/?p=31215"},"modified":"2013-08-23T17:42:47","modified_gmt":"2013-08-23T09:42:47","slug":"mindef-reply-on-banning-of-devices-with-screen-more-than-4-3-inch-in-army-camps","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/techielobang.com\/blog\/2012\/09\/13\/mindef-reply-on-banning-of-devices-with-screen-more-than-4-3-inch-in-army-camps\/","title":{"rendered":"MINDEF Reply on Banning of Devices with Screen More than 4.3-inch in Army Camps"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><span style=\"color: #ff0000;\"><strong>Updated on 23rd August 2013: <a href=\"http:\/\/techielobang.com\/blog\/2013\/08\/23\/mindef-authorizes-more-army-camps-to-allow-camera-phones-and-in-vehicle-cameras\/\" target=\"_blank\"><span style=\"color: #ff0000;\">MINDEF updated their reviews on phone cameras and in-vehicle cameras<\/span><\/a><\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p>Recently, MINDEF (Ministry of Defence) announced the much anticipated news that many NSMen or Active SAF personnel are waiting for. They have started a <a href=\"http:\/\/www.mindef.gov.sg\/content\/imindef\/news_and_events\/nr\/2012\/aug\/31aug12_nr.print.html?Status=1\" target=\"_blank\">pilot security zoning programme at 14 camps<\/a>. What it means is that with this programme, camera phones can finally be brought into these camps at selected areas.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/techielobang.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/09\/527868_10151048544808951_1028622591_n.jpg\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"31216\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/techielobang.com\/blog\/2012\/09\/13\/mindef-reply-on-banning-of-devices-with-screen-more-than-4-3-inch-in-army-camps\/527868_10151048544808951_1028622591_n\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/techielobang.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/09\/527868_10151048544808951_1028622591_n.jpg?fit=720%2C540&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"720,540\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"527868_10151048544808951_1028622591_n\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-medium-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/techielobang.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/09\/527868_10151048544808951_1028622591_n.jpg?fit=300%2C225&amp;ssl=1\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/techielobang.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/09\/527868_10151048544808951_1028622591_n.jpg?fit=720%2C540&amp;ssl=1\" class=\"aligncenter  wp-image-31216\" title=\"527868_10151048544808951_1028622591_n\" alt=\"\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/techielobang.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/09\/527868_10151048544808951_1028622591_n.jpg?resize=600%2C450\" width=\"600\" height=\"450\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/techielobang.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/09\/527868_10151048544808951_1028622591_n.jpg?w=720&amp;ssl=1 720w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/techielobang.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/09\/527868_10151048544808951_1028622591_n.jpg?resize=300%2C225&amp;ssl=1 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 600px) 100vw, 600px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<h6 style=\"text-align: center;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/photo.php?fbid=10151048544808951&amp;set=p.10151048544808951&amp;type=1\" target=\"_blank\">(picture source from Facebook)<\/a><\/h6>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<p>However, after the implementation, news trickled in mentioning that these camps do not allow devices that are more than 4.3-inch in screen size (see above picture).<\/p>\n<p>I could not co-relate why screen size is included in the mobile phone criteria when the whole objective is to allow or disallow mobile phone with camera into the camp.<\/p>\n<p>I tried to asked around but could not get a good answer. Finally, I decided to write to them and they have replied me with some answers. I will not copy everything here but some important\/interesting information<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><span style=\"font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: medium; color: #ff0000;\">The pilot implementation of the security zoning system only allows servicemen to bring camera-equipped mobile phones into the designated Green Zones of the 14 selected SAF camps. The 14 camps were chosen due to the high number of NSmen and NSFs who train in these camps. A post-implementation review will be conducted six to nine months after the pilot implementation.\u00a0 The media will be informed accordingly on the outcome of the review and the way ahead.<\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: medium;\">The above is something we already know and it sounds logical. However, the point below is something that many might not know or agree.<br \/>\n<\/span><\/p>\n<blockquote><p><span style=\"font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: medium; color: #ff0000;\">Existing security policies and restrictions on other devices such as iPads and other tablets are still in-place and are subjected to further review. Mobile phones with screen size larger than 4.3 inches, with or without camera, are not allowed into SAF camps. This aims to prevent servicemen from bringing unauthorised mini-computers into SAF camps.<\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: medium;\">Based on the information above, the whole point is that they are worried about mini-computers into the SAF camps. It has been a while since I heard about the term &#8220;mini-computer&#8221;. I tried to Google mini-computer but they are old stuffs (<a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Minicomputer\" target=\"_blank\">Minicomputer<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Superminicomputer\" target=\"_blank\">Superminicomputer<\/a>).<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: medium;\">Of course, I think they meant small size computers in general. However, to ban mobile phones based on size means that many new phones will be in the &#8220;banned&#8221; category. These &#8220;big&#8221; phones may have the same or lower processor than those phones with smaller screen size. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: medium;\">Therefore, I think banning a phone based on screen size is not a good or correct way. Instead, they can: &#8211;<\/span><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><span style=\"font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: medium;\">Get a list of phones that are more than 4.3-inch in screen size and confirm them upon entry to the camps. These phones should be allowed as they are NOT mini computers.<br \/>\n<\/span><\/li>\n<li><span style=\"font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: medium;\">Continue to ban those NOT in the list. This will make the job easier and less confusion. Of course, please update the list periodically.<\/span><\/li>\n<li><span style=\"font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: medium;\">Educate the guards on how to check\/verify the phones using SOP.<\/span><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>Actually, I believe that they already have a list (based on the picture above). The fact that it is incorrect to think that any devices above 4.3-inch might be a computer. In fact, they should worry about <a href=\"http:\/\/techielobang.com\/blog\/2012\/03\/01\/rs-components-launches-credit-card-size-us35-raspberry-pi-computer\/\" target=\"_blank\">computer like this Raspberry Pi<\/a> that can be easily hidden and brought into camps. The definition of computer or mini-computers and the ban of mobile phones based on screen size should be reviewed. I think most of our smartphones are actually quite powerful (mini) computers.<\/p>\n<p>BTW,\u00a0 I blogged about this because bringing camera phones to camp has been a hot topic in my army days long time ago. It is good that MINDEF is finally addressing it. However, it is sad that they are limiting the devices based on the wrong criteria (in my opinion).<\/p>\n<p>In order not to confuse those who do not know about the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.mindef.gov.sg\/content\/imindef\/news_and_events\/nr\/2012\/aug\/31aug12_nr.print.html?Status=1\" target=\"_blank\">pilot security zoning programme<\/a>, please follow the link below for more information.<\/p>\n<h1><a href=\"http:\/\/www.mindef.gov.sg\/imindef\/press_room\/official_releases\/nr\/2012\/aug\/31aug12_nr\/31aug12_fs.html\" target=\"_blank\">Click Here to Official Announcement from MINDEF<\/a><\/h1>\n<p>or<\/p>\n<h1><a href=\"http:\/\/www.mindef.gov.sg\/imindef\/publications\/cyberpioneer\/news\/2012\/aug\/31aug12_news.html\" target=\"_blank\">Click Here to Understand How it Works<\/a><\/h1>\n<p>Hope to hear from your comments on this matter. BTW, I will let MINDEF know about this blog post. So, if you have anything to say or point out, please feel free to do so.<\/p>\n<p>[ad#boxlist]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Recently, MINDEF (Ministry of Defence) announced the much anticipated news that many NSMen or Active SAF personnel are waiting for. 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